----- Original Message ---- From: carsten charlesworth <**********@hotmail.com>
To: Gerald Polley Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:35:52 AM
Subject: RE: your view on gays
lol you think their is no rationalization with me what are you talking about i give you clear instances off wrongs commited and then you deny them feeling it easier just to come up with some lame excuse than to think or to use your logic. If you were a true christian you would know and read up on the new testament and notice that jesus himself thinks that it is ok to be gay. v.12 " for there are some enuches, which were so born from their mothers womb" and clarified v.12 means some men were born with no desire for a woman
also you say god has his reasons for actions commited. The great flood that god brought, that doesnt seem like massacre to you. Hitler killed 10 million people compared to god who went ahead and killed everything on earth oh yh thanks god. Also you say miracles occur all the time like go is healing cancer all the time right so if god is doing all this how come no amputess ever regrow arms. Now your going to make some excuse for god on this point saying soething like god has a plan for amputees. also in the psalm 139:16
he planned the days of your life in advance, choosing the exact time of your birth and your death.
Doesnt this mean god planned all abortions i mean if god planned all deaths why should the church be against abortion if god planned for someones death and doesnt this also mean that god plans all murder including the holocaust.
Also if you believe in god jesus says you can go to heaven well hitler was a catholic so whilst 6 million jews that he killed would have been sentenced to hell simply because they did not believe in jesus as the messiah hitler goes to heaven because he believes in God? WOW well isnt god all merciful. I mean seriously people who do good all their life go to hell simply for believing in the wrong person. I mean their are only 2 billion christians worldwide what about the rest off the humans on earth 6 billion.
Also you condone the slaughter of people on the sabbat day as needed for the times and that the sabbath is from friday to sunday. HAVE YOU READ THE BIBLE, the seventh day is rest meaning sunday and how can you pick and choose how you apply gods laws like that i mean if you read leviticus it states in there and im sorry youll have to find the verse yourself as i cant remember where it is that any man who trims or shaves his beard or is bald is to be put to death. Well ummm i can see how catastrophe could strike if someone shaved their beard or was bald.
and in response to you saying that the verse saying you should hate everything, you replied that means you should love jesus above all else not it doesnt mean that your making up another excuse. Jesus specifically says hate not that you should love less than im he says you should hate all these people what you are doing is making another cover for jesus.
Also i notice you didnt reply to what i said about how jesus states in the bible you should not own any belongings. Well everyone owns belongings especially the church so dont i notice you dont mention how that works. Now i can take a guess at what your reply will have in it hmm let me see a bunch of bull**** like god has a plan for everyone or some thing like well this is what god actually means when this is really just an excuse and you have no evidence to back your well ridiculous illogical and irrational claims.
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Leviticus 25:44
Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
Exodus 21:20
And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.
Our obnoxious homosexual says that these verses imply that God approved of slavery. Well, the first one most definitely does state that The Israeli People could buy slaves from the surrounding people. But the second verse tells what should be done to a person who mistreats their servants. It must be remembered that The Hebrew People had themselves been slaves under cruel taskmasters, and their laws were very strict. People could purchase servants but they had to be treated honorably, and anyone that killed a slave would themselves, be put to death. Often people in the surrounding areas who were sold into slavery preferred to be sold to The Hebrews than to others, for they knew they would be better treated with The Hebrews.
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